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Dr. Price had rebutted an article by Jim Lippard, "The Fabulous
Prophecies of the Messiah", in which Lippard was very critical of these
alleged prophecies. Farrell Till responded to Price's rebuttal.
Till's initial point in his response was that before one can entertain
the possibility that there were actual prophecies in the Old Testament
of Jesus Christ, the alleged Messiah, it first must be proven beyond any
reasonable doubt that this Jesus Christ, as portrayed in the New
Testament, did in fact exist. From the Errancy discussion list, 8-12-96:
Farrell Till's reply:
Before
I begin discussing specific arguments in Dr. Price's article, there is
one other prelimary matter that I need to address. Later, I will list
and discuss some widely recognized criteria of valid prophecy
fulfillment, but to discuss this other preliminary matter, I must jump
ahead and focus on one of those criteria. It is obviously true that
before a valid prophecy fulfillment can be established, the person
claiming prophecy fulfillment must first show that the event or events
that fulfilled the prophecy did in fact happen.
This
poses a special problem for Dr. Price, because the subject of Lippard's
article that Price rebutted was Messianic prophecies. Obviously, then,
no valid claim of Messianic prophecy fulfillment can be made until Price
establishes beyond reasonable doubt that a Messiah actually existed,
because no nonexistent person could possibly fulfill prophecies that
were made about a specific person. If, for example, I should claim that
Dudley P. Snizzlehoff living in 18th-century Boston, MA, fulfilled
certain prophecies made by Michele de Nostredame in 1554, my fulfillment
claim would be weak indeed if I couldn't even prove that a person by
the name of Dudley P. Snizzlehoff had even lived in 18th-century Boston.
This is the situation that Dr. Price finds himself in. He claims that
several Old Testament prophecies of a coming Messiah were fulfilled in
the person and deeds of Jesus of Nazareth in the first century of the
common era, yet neither he nor anyone else can establish beyond
reasonable doubt that this Jesus of Nazareth was an actual historical
person. This man Jesus of Nazareth was mentioned in New Testament
documents, and he was mentioned in certain apocryphal writings.
However,
none of these documents were contemporary to the time that Jesus
allegedly lived; they were all written after the time that Christians
believe that he had lived. The earliest of these documents, some of the
epistles of the apostle Paul, were written about two decades after Jesus
had presumably been crucified and resurrected, and their author never
even claimed that he had seen Jesus while he was alive. His claim was
that he had seen Jesus after his death and that this sighting was only
in a "vision" (Acts 26:19), and even this was a hearsay claim that came
to us through Luke. The other New Testament documents came later--much
later--and there is no way to confirm that they were actually written by
the people whom Christians claim were their authors. The apocryphal
writings are so outrageously ridiculous in their content that even
Christians reject their authenticity. When we put all of these facts
into perspective, we have a very weak case for the historicity of Jesus.
The
New Testament gospels present him as a man who attracted huge
multitudes of people, who had heard of his fame in places as far away as
Syria, Tyre, Sidon, and Idumea (Matt. 4:24-25; Mark 3:7; Luke 6:17), a
man who went about healing the blind and the lame, walking on water,
changing water into wine, raising the dead, a man who himself was
allegedly crucified amidst remarkable signs and wonders, i.e., a
mysterious midday darkness, an earthquake, and a general resurrection of
many saints, and was then himself resurrected to life; yet not a single
contemporary record makes any mention at all of this remarkable man or
any of these wondrous signs. Dr. Price cannot quote a single
contemporary secular writer who said that he/she ever saw the man, ever
talked to him, ever heard him preach, or ever saw him perform a single
miracle. The only references to him in any documents that even come
close to being contemporary records were written by people who were
flagrantly biased in their belief that a man named Jesus had lived and
performed signs and wonders during the time of the Roman prefector
Pontius Pilate. This is hardly convincing evidence for actual historical
existence.
Dr.
Price, of course, will argue that this is an argument from silence, but
complete historical silence about some of the events presumably
associated with Jesus are difficult, if not impossible, to imagine. King
Herod allegedly killed all of the male children in and around
Bethlehem, but there are no historical references to this massacre.
Josephus, who treated Herod rather unkindly in his *Antiquities of the
Jews* and told of many of Herod's heinous deeds, said nothing about the
slaughter of the infants at Bethlehem. Later, we will see Dr. Price
actually arguing that Josephus probably didn't consider such a deed as
this important enough to mention. Likewise, I presume Dr. Price thinks
that Josephus didn't consider the three hours of darkness over all the
land at midday when Jesus was crucified important enough to mention
(Matt. 27:45; Mark 15:33; Luke 23:44).
Apparently
no other contemporary writer considered it important either, because no
indisputable records of it were left by anyone. This was described as a
darkness that fell over "all the land," and Luke even translated the
Greek word "ge" as earth, which was a possible meaning of the word, so
the gospel writers could have been claiming that this midday darkness
had fallen over "all the earth." If it was even a regional darkness,
there would surely have been some mention of it in official and
unofficial records, yet the best that biblicists can do is cite a
disputed reference or two from second- and third-century writers like
Julius Africanus and Phlegon, who claim that first century writers whose
works are no longer extant had mentioned an "eclipse." Eclipses are
measured in minutes, not hours, so such hearsay references as these can
hardly be considered sterling evidence that an unnatural midday darkness
of three hours' duration really happened.
Contemporary
records were also strangely silent about the earthquake at the time of
Jesus's death, which allegedly shook open the graves of many saints who
then went into the city and appeared unto many (Matt. 27:52-53). Like
the supernatural darkness at midday, word of such a remarkable event as
this would surely have been spread through the region, if not the known
world, so that references to it would have been left in contemporary
records, but none exist. The historian Seneca was born in 4 B.C., the
same year that most New Testament scholars fix the time of Jesus's
birth. He and Pliny the Elder, another contemporary of Jesus, wrote
detailed accounts of all of the known natural disasters and phenomena,
past and present, earthquakes, floods, meteors, comets, eclipses, etc.,
but neither one mentioned either a three-hour darkness at midday or an
earthquake that shook open tombs and resurrected "many" dead people. In
chapter 24 of *The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,* Edward Gibbon
refers to the silence of Seneca and Pliny on the midday darkness and
accepts this as reason to believe that no such event ever happened. The
silence of Josephus about such remarkable events as these is also hard
to imagine. His father, Matthias, was a priest in Jerusalem at the very
time that Jesus was allegedly crucified and resurrected (*The Life of
Flavius Josephus,* 2:7-12), so we can hardly imagine Josephus's father
witnessing such phenomenal events as the midday darkness and the
resurrection of "many" saints and not talking about them in the family
circle as Josephus was growing up.
Likewise,
we can't imagine Josephus not referring to these events if his father
had indeed mentioned them. Josephus mentioned several minor Messianic
claimants, whom history has now all but forgotten, but he made only two
short, disputed references to a Messiah whose life was accompanied by
truly amazing events. There is argument from silence; there is argument
from unreasonable silence, and it is unreasonable to think that really
remarkable events like these could have happened without any
contemporary references to them having survived. My personal position is
not that Jesus of Nazareth was merely a fictional or legendary
character but that he very well could have been, because the evidence is
simply insufficient to establish as historical fact that this man was
an actual person.
The
strange silence of contemporary records concerning the New Testament
claims of amazing signs and wonders that accompanied the ministry of
Jesus is certainly reason enough to believe that he was at best a
quasihistorical person, whose life was later exaggerated and legendized
to the point that it would be correct to say that the Jesus of the
gospels simply did not exist. As I begin addressing Dr. Price's claims
of prophecy fulfillment, we will see that most of his evidence consists
only of what the New Testament says happened in the life of Jesus. In a
word, we will see that practically all of Dr. Price's evidence assumes
the historical accuracy of the New Testament documents. We will see him
arguing that the New Testament says that Jesus was born of a virgin, and
so this proves that he was born of a virgin. We will see him arguing
that the New Testament claims that he was born in Bethlehem, and so this
proves that he was born in Bethlehem, and so on.
Dr.
Price's claim that Jesus of Nazareth existed and fulfilled many
Messianic prophecies is a claim that is fraught with too many problems
to be taken seriously by rational people. He is, in effect, claiming
that a person who may not have existed fulfilled certain events that may
not have happened, whose historicity depends entirely upon an
assumption that everything the New Testament claims is historically
accurate. At this point, I could simply stop and say that Dr. Price's
prophecy fulfillment claims have been rebutted until he can remove the
problems that I have identified in this posting. However, I will begin
in my next posting to take his arguments one by one and show that even
if we assume the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth, Dr. Price's arguments
are insufficient to establish undeniable prophecy fulfillment. I don't
know if Dr. Price intends to respond to my rebuttals, but if he does, I
invite him to begin with a major problem that arises from something he
said in the following quotation excerpted from the conclusion of his
article:
PRICE
What
is surprising is the prophecies that Lippard failed to discuss. He
stated that he discussed the most important ones, but the most important
ones relate to Jesus' resurrection. The Old Testament does foretell the
resurrection of the Messiah, and God really did raise Jesus from the
dead. This event validates the righteous character of Jesus, the truth
of His Messianic claims, the truth of fulfilled Messianic prophecy, and
the validity of Christianity.
TILL
Aside
from the obvious fact that establishing beyond reasonable doubt that
Jesus of Nazareth did literally die and then literally return to life
poses immense problems for Dr. Price, I am going to lay an added burden
on him. The New Testament does claim that the resurrection of Jesus was
prophesied, but no one can identify any Old Testament prophecy of the
Messiah's resurrection that was worded so clearly that no reasonable
person can deny that this was what the prophecy meant. I know that the
apostles Peter and Paul, according to Luke, claimed that Psalm 16:8ff
was a prophecy of Jesus's resurrection, but only someone desperate to
find a resurrection prophecy could read this text and find any reason to
believe that it was predicting a Messiah's resurrection from the dead.
This
prophecy will very likely come up later if Dr. Price decides to
participate in a debate on prophecy fulfillment, but for now, I want to
call his attention to what Luke alleged that Jesus told his disciples
the night of his resurrection: "Thus it is written that the Christ
should suffer and rise again from the dead the third day" (Luke 24:47).
The apostle Paul also alleged that the scriptures had spoken of the
Messiah's resurrection on the third day: "For I delivered unto you first
of all that which also I received, that Christ died for our sins
according to the scriptures, and that he was buried and he has been
raised on the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES" (1 Cor. 15:3-4). So
here are two New Testament statements, one of them allegedly made by
Jesus himself, that the scriptures (which would have had to have been
the Old Testament) had spoken of the Christ's resurrection ON THE THIRD
DAY. I now issue a challenge to Dr. Price. I defy him to find any Old
Testament passage that ever prophesied that the Messiah would be
resurrected on the third day.
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